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Gabby Windey picked up a drink years before she turned 21.
The former Bachelorette, 34, invited her Traitors season 3 castmate Carolyn Wiger onto the March 13 episode of her Long Winded podcast, and the two had an honest conversation about their relationships with substances.
Wiger, 38, shared that she got sober at 22 and now works as a licensed drug and alcohol counselor. Windey said she’s “so interested in sobriety” because “I really do I want to stop drinking.”
“I’m so depressed that it like, it will make me depressed,” Windey continued. “Not even the day after but like, a week. Like, and you won’t even notice it.”
Windey also shared that she began drinking alcohol at a young age.
“I started drinking at 13,” she said. “I was throwing up out of my nose.”
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As for Wiger, the Survivor alum said she used a fake ID to go to bars and become “a stripper when I was 16.”
“I thought I had to change my personality too because I blamed my personality on drugs and alcohol,” Wiger said of getting sober.
Windey acknowledged that her behavior changes when she drinks alcohol, too, pointing to a recent dinner where she spilled the tea with Traitors costar Boston Rob Mariano after drinking a couple glasses of wine.
“I was talking a lot of s— with Boston Rob. He’s such a good gossip,” she said to Wiger. “I had two glasses of wine and by the end I’m like, ‘Are you going to go back and tell everyone what I said?’ And then I’m like, ‘I don’t care.’”
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The Bachelor alum didn’t initially expect to have anything in common with Mariano. 49. “We were sitting on the end, just him and I, and I’m like, ‘Great, what the f— are we going to talk about?’” Windey wondered.
By the end, “he was laughing at every single thing,” said Windey, who secretly married comedian Robby Hoffman in January. “And I’m like, ‘No you’re encouraging me at this point! You’re egging me on and I’m taking the bait.’”
Despite the fun evening, Windey realized: “I wouldn’t gossip with Boston Rob if I wasn’t two glasses of wine deep.”
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Windey won season 3 of The Traitors alongside fellow Faithfuls Dolores Catania, Dylan Efron and Ivar Mountbatten. She called the experience “great” on her podcast, but suggested she wouldn’t do it again.
“If they bring people back, you’d be way better at it,” Windey said to Wiger. “Plus what the f—? I talk enough s—. I don’t need to go on another TV show to do it.”
Windey also teased that “it makes me nervous that too many people like me now” after going on The Traitors and exposing herself to a new audience.
“I want the people who don’t get it not to get it,” Windey explained. “I want to piss off the right people. Literally the right and the right. But it’s like, if too many people like me, they’re going to be disappointed, they’re going to come here and be so pissed at me. Like, I don’t want, I don’t need everyone to love me. This is like, too much pressure. I need to be accepted for who I am. But then, the more eyes like the scarier.”
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The Traitors season 3 is streaming now on Peacock.